At 90 Days, Libya Conflict Has Washington Divided

Jun 18, 2011
Originally published on June 18, 2011 5:54 pm

The debate over what to do about Libya is coming to a head on Capitol Hill.

The U.S. military intervention in Libya reaches its 90th day on Sunday. That number is significant, because according to the 1973 War Powers Resolution, Congress must authorize American engagements in hostilities that surpass 90 days.

Congress has not formally authorized military operations in Libya, and the White House contends there's no need to do so. Obama's position on the War Powers Resolution and Libya was laid out in a 30-page report sent to Congress this week. It's quite simple, as White House spokesman Jay Carney explained on Friday to a roomful of reporters.

"We do not believe, as a legal matter, that our engagement in this mission meets the hostilities threshold set by the War Powers Resolution, and therefore does not apply," he said.

In other words, Obama will not be violating the War Powers Resolution starting Monday because, by his lights, the U.S. is not at war in Libya. Speaker of the House John Boehner isn't buying it.

"We've got drone attacks under way; we're spending $10 million a day; we're part of an effort to drop bombs on Gadhafi's compounds," he says. "It doesn't pass the straight face test, in my view, that we're not in the midst of hostilities."

The House Divided

As soon as next week, Boehner says, the House could exercise its power of the purse to try to put limits on the Libya intervention. Meanwhile, 10 House Democrats and Republicans filed a suit in federal court this week, declaring the president in violation of both the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution.

One of the plaintiffs is Maryland Republican Roscoe Bartlett. "My concern is not whether we should be there or not; my concern is how we got there — even if I thought we should be there, I would still be a part of this lawsuit, because we got there the wrong way," he says. "This sets a terrible precedent."

Siding with Obama in this quarrel, however, are several prominent House Democrats. Minority leader Nancy Pelosi is one of them.

"I'm satisfied that the president has the authority he needs to go ahead, and I say that as one very protective of congressional prerogative," she says.

But while some longtime anti-war House Democrats such as Pelosi are giving a Democratic president a pass on Libya, their once-hawkish GOP counterparts are not.

Senate Splits Along Unusual Lines

In the Senate, it gets more complicated. Perhaps Obama's staunchest defender there on Libya is the Republican he beat two and a half years ago, Arizona's John McCain. This week on the Senate floor, McCain took House Republicans to task for prompting a letter of thanks from Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi after they passed a resolution this month chiding Obama on Libya.

"Republicans need to ask themselves whether they want to be part of a group who are earning the grateful thanks of a murderous tyrant for trying to limit an American president's ability to force that tyrant to leave power," McCain said.

McCain has teamed up with John Kerry, the Democratic chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, to draft a resolution expressing the Senate's support for the Libyan intervention. Kerry says their motive in doing so is not the War Powers Resolution.

"I don't believe it applies," Kerry says, "but I think it's good for us to be on record as being supportive."

The top Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee disagrees. Indiana's Richard Lugar says starting next week, Obama will indeed be in violation of the War Powers Resolution, and Congress must act.

"If the administration wanted to declare war on Libya, we should ask for a declaration of war and have that debate," Lugar says.

Libya also divides Senate Democrats. Illinois' Dick Durbin, the chamber's No. 2 Democrat and one of Obama's closest allies on Capitol Hill, disagrees with the president's characterization of the U.S. role in Libya.

"We went beyond supplying technology to supplying support for refueling, for intelligence and the like," he says. "America is engaged in this conflict."

"It is war, in the classic sense, in that we are in open hostilities with the forces of Moammar Gadhafi," Durbin says.

So it may all come down to one troubling question: What constitutes being at war?

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Transcript

SCOTT SIMON, host:

Another U.S. military intervention is reaching a milestone. Tomorrow will be day 90 of the military campaign against Libya. That number is significant because an American engagement in hostilities not authorized by Congress and surpassing 90 days violates the 1973 War Powers Resolution. Now, Congress has not formally authorized military operations in Libya and the White House contends there's no need to do that.

As NPR's David Welna reports, the debate over what to do about Libya is coming to a head on Capitol Hill.

DAVID WELNA: President Obama's position on the War Powers Resolution in Libya was laid out in a 30-page report sent to Congress this week. It's quite simple, as White House spokesman Jay Carney explained yesterday to a room full of reporters.

Mr. JAY CARNEY (White House Spokesman): We do not believe that as a legal matter that our engagement in this mission meets the hostilities threshold set by the War Powers Resolution and therefore it does not apply, does not need to be invoked.

WELNA: In other words, President Obama will not be violating the War Powers Resolution starting Monday, because by his lights the U.S. is not at war in Libya. But Speaker of the House John Boehner isn't buying it.

Representative JOHN BOEHNER (Republican, Ohio; Speaker of the House): We've got drone attacks underway. We're spending $10 million a day. We're part of an effort to drop bombs on Gadhafi's compounds. It doesn't pass a straight face test in my view that we're not in the midst of hostilities.

WELNA: Boehner says as soon as next week, the House could exercise its power of the purse to try to put limits on the Libyan intervention. Meanwhile, 10 House Democrats and Republicans filed a suit in federal court this week, declaring the president in violation of both the Constitution and the War Powers Resolution. One of the plaintiffs is Maryland Republican Roscoe Bartlett.

Representative ROSCOE BARTLETT (Republican, Maryland): My concern is not whether we should be there or not, my concern is how we got there. Even if I thought we should be there, I would still be a part of this lawsuit because we got there the wrong way. This sets a terrible precedent.

WELNA: Siding with President Obama in this quarrel are several prominent House Democrats. Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is one of them.

Representative NANCY PELOSI (Democrat, California, Minority Leader): I'm satisfied that the president has the authority he needs to go ahead and I say that as one very protective of congressional prerogatives.

WELNA: So, while longtime anti-war House Democrats, such as Pelosi, are giving a Democratic president a pass on Libya, their once hawkish GOP counterparts are not.

In the Senate it gets more complicated. Perhaps, President Obama's staunchest defender there on Libya is the Republican he beat two and a half years ago, Arizona's John McCain. This week on the Senate floor, McCain took House Republicans to task for prompting a letter of thanks from Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi after they passed a resolution this month chiding President Obama on Libya.

Senator JOHN MCCAIN (Republican, Arizona): Republicans need to ask themselves whether they want to be part of a group who are earning the grateful thanks of a murderous tyrant for trying to limit an American president's ability to force that tyrant to leave power.

WELNA: McCain has teamed up with John Kerry, the Democratic chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, to draft a resolution expressing the Senate's support for the Libyan intervention. Kerry said their motive in doing so is not the War Powers Resolution.

Senator JOHN KERRY (Democrat, Massachusetts; Chair, Foreign Relations Committee): I don't believe it applies, but I think it's good for us to be on record as being supportive.

WELNA: The top Republican on the Foreign Relations panel disagrees. Indiana's Richard Luger says President Obama will be in violation of the War Powers Act starting next week, and Congress must act.

Senator RICHARD LUGER (Republican, Indiana): If the administration wanted to declare a war on Libya, we should have asked a declaration of war and have that debate.

WELNA: Libya also divides Senate Democrats. Illinois's Dick Durbin is that chamber's number two Democrat and one of President Obama's closest allies on Capitol Hill. But he disagrees with the president's characterization of the U.S. role in Libya.

Senator DICK DURBIN (Democrat, Illinois): We went beyond supplying technology to supplying support for refueling, intelligence and the like. America is engaged in this conflict.

WELNA: Is it war?

Mr. DURBIN: Well, it is war in the classic sense, and that we are in open hostilities with the forces of Moammar Gadhafi.

WELNA: It may all come down to one troubling question: what constitutes being at war.

David Welna, NPR News, the Capitol. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.